Ep 116. Why Clarity Comes Before Confidence (And What Most People Get Wrong)

00:00:00: What would I choose if I fully trusted myself?

00:00:04: That's one question, right?

00:00:06: Then there's another If I already had courage, what action would I take today?

00:00:13: Today.

00:00:15: Or What story of fear am I willing to release so I can step into my power?

00:00:24: What do you need to walk past in order to move forward?

00:00:31: Hi, and welcome to Lead Well.

00:00:39: Today's guest is Glenda Benevides.

00:00:43: You are, Glenda, a Grammy nominated artist, an award-winning author,

00:00:49: and the creator of "Soul on Fire".

00:00:53: "Soul On Fire" is a powerful life experience that blends music,

00:00:57: storytelling, and transformation.

00:01:00: And your work, Glenda, is about clarity, courage, and confidence.

00:01:06: Not as just concepts, but really as lived experiences and your journey

00:01:12: from early challenges with dyslexia and speech to becoming a global voice

00:01:17: for empowerment, is deeply human and deeply relevant for everyone

00:01:22: and especially also leaders today.

00:01:25: So I'm really looking forward to this conversation.

00:01:28: Hi.

00:01:29: Hi.

00:01:30: Thank you.

00:01:31: Thank you for that.

00:01:34: Let's start right away talking about Soul on Fire, because you described that as an

00:01:40: immersive activation and not a concert.

00:01:44: So what really shifts when music is used that way, and what do you mean by that?

00:01:50: Yeah, the music I believe is healing and it's been a healing

00:01:56: for me and so many others, of course, and it crosses all genres.

00:02:01: So it doesn't really matter.

00:02:02: Whatever you're inspired by or whatever activates your heart, your

00:02:07: mind, your body, your soul, whatever.

00:02:09: So with Soul on Fire, I really, I've been... I've done a lot of

00:02:15: transformational work in my life through Landmark and, studying heiddeger and

00:02:20: various other things and just really digging into the soul and what does it

00:02:27: mean to, what is my purpose, what does it mean to be me and how do I express that?

00:02:34: And as, as I was on that journey, just for myself, not really, I'm not

00:02:39: coaching anybody or anything like that.

00:02:41: But, I just felt I sing, I perform, I write music, I write books.

00:02:45: I do all these things.

00:02:46: And it's how can I be the biggest contribution to

00:02:50: people in my life, my career?

00:02:52: Making this my long time career.

00:02:55: How do I up level all of that and then really help people

00:02:59: or inspire them in some way.

00:03:01: So that's how Soul On Fire came about.

00:03:03: I was like how do I take music and visual and audio, audio telling

00:03:08: stories that type of thing.

00:03:10: So I went, what would it be like if I threw them all together?

00:03:14: And that's a challenge.

00:03:16: Wow.

00:03:17: Wow.

00:03:17: And is this because immersive to me also sounds like me as

00:03:22: somebody who is watching and listening will participate somehow.

00:03:27: Is that..

00:03:28: All of it.

00:03:29: All of it.

00:03:29: Yeah.

00:03:30: I'm, I've worked it in such a way that, I'll tell a, let's say, I'll tell a,

00:03:34: I'll just one por portion of the show.

00:03:37: I'll tell a story and then I'll sing a song, and then on the screen what

00:03:40: you'll see is you'll have a, there'll be a question that would be pertinent

00:03:44: to you and, with the show itself, what I do is I give, there's gift bags, and

00:03:50: in the gift bag you have a journal.

00:03:51: So you can pull your journal out and you can write, you can answer

00:03:54: those questions, or you'll have it in a, save it for later or whatever.

00:03:58: And then more towards the end of the show I do a question answer.

00:04:03: More paired sharing, that type of thing, so we can all interact.

00:04:07: And that seems to work really well.

00:04:09: People really enjoy that aspect of the whole experience.

00:04:14: So you're getting music, you're getting all these passive kind of

00:04:19: experiences, but then you get to activate your own experience through that.

00:04:23: So it's real interesting to, to watch people have, watch people from my

00:04:31: perspective, having the experience of this, and they're just, they're,

00:04:35: I think at first they're shocked, because it's like enacting, you're

00:04:38: breaking the fourth wall, so uhhuh it's quite invigorating and fun actually.

00:04:43: Wow.

00:04:45: I can really imagine that because, I'm a very emotional person, so whenever I

00:04:48: listen to music, especially when there is a text involved I totally relate to

00:04:53: it and I start crying or laughing or I really relive what's said in the song.

00:04:59: Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:00: And I really intentionally set forth to go, okay, how do people really listen?

00:05:07: How do people interact?

00:05:08: How do people experience, art or anything really.

00:05:12: And everybody has a different way, right?

00:05:14: Some people are very visual.

00:05:16: I'm very visual.

00:05:17: Some people are auditory, some people are kinesthetic, that kind of thing.

00:05:21: So I, what I've done is I've infused all this, which is very challenging.

00:05:25: I've infused all of this in one experience for about an hour and 40

00:05:30: minutes Yeah it's it's it worked.

00:05:33: The time goes by really fast.

00:05:34: It's really fun.

00:05:35: People really enjoy it and they're really, they're having wonderful inspirational

00:05:40: moments that are takeaways for them.

00:05:42: Plus they have their journal so they can write in it or

00:05:45: save it for later or, whatever.

00:05:48: So it's something that they can continue on with their own insights

00:05:53: or their own transformation.

00:05:55: Wow.

00:05:55: And when people leave a Soul on Fire experience, what do you hope

00:06:00: that stays with them weeks later?

00:06:04: That they can have the things that they want.

00:06:10: That they can feel free to step into their own thoughts or own

00:06:15: empowerment, their own ways of being.

00:06:18: That they can reflect more and really, really choose something that they

00:06:22: can feel powerful, not powerless.

00:06:26: And where would I need to be to experience Soul on Fire in person?

00:06:31: It's, right now it's only in the San Francisco Bay area.

00:06:34: Now let me talk about another aspect of your work, because I know that you

00:06:38: write and speak a lot about courage.

00:06:41: How do you experience courage and is there a way of experiencing courage in my

00:06:48: body, not only in my mind and my mindset?

00:06:52: What do you mean by courage?

00:06:55: Yeah.

00:06:56: I have these five pillars that I live in and I believe in and I've written

00:06:59: about, and I also infuse this into the show, but it starts with clarity.

00:07:04: You've gotta have clarity.

00:07:05: It goes clarity, courage, confidence, commitment, then community.

00:07:10: You cannot have community or even courage if you do not have clarity.

00:07:16: If you do not know who you are or what you want, or what kind of people do you wanna

00:07:20: be around, or... you're just flailing around, then how do you really manifest?

00:07:25: Like how do you really have what you wanna have?

00:07:28: If you don't know what you really want.

00:07:30: you may be taking, ideas or inspirations from somebody else, or you may feel

00:07:36: pressured from your family or your friends or whatever to be a certain way

00:07:40: or do a certain thing, and if you're trying to be them or something that

00:07:44: you're not, then it's a little difficult to really step into your courage,

00:07:50: and then you go into your confidence.

00:07:52: Clarity, courage, and courage is really a place that you step into,

00:07:56: it's okay, I'm really clear about this.

00:07:58: Alright, let me try this.

00:08:01: Just let me step out and do this one thing.

00:08:03: Then when you do that one thing, boom, the confidence starts to come.

00:08:08: It starts to seep in.

00:08:09: Then you do it again.

00:08:10: Then you get more confidence.

00:08:12: Then you do it again.

00:08:13: You get more confidence, right?

00:08:14: It, it builds like that.

00:08:16: And then, once you're really activated, you've really activated the, the courage

00:08:22: to trust yourself and to do the things that you feel are right for your path,

00:08:26: then you really step into that confidence.

00:08:30: And then, and that kind of avalanches into commitment.

00:08:33: Oh I'm committed to that.

00:08:34: That then I'm committed otherwise.

00:08:36: And you, and I think you know this too, Christine, when people

00:08:39: are really sketchy and they don't really, can't commit to anything.

00:08:43: And guess what?

00:08:44: They don't have trust.

00:08:45: They don't know who they are necessarily, or they don't know what they want.

00:08:48: And so that why they're afraid to commit to anything.

00:08:51: Because they may not feel like doing it, later.

00:08:54: So if you start with all of how I lay it out, if you just try it

00:08:58: on, if it works for you, great.

00:08:59: If it doesn't, it's fine too.

00:09:00: But I just say that this is how I figured it out.

00:09:03: How I worked my life.

00:09:05: And then you know, then you can go, okay, I'm really committed to that.

00:09:09: I'm really committed to that.

00:09:10: And then you can go, now I've got this stuff rolling.

00:09:12: I can have community.

00:09:14: I can bring in community, I can activate who I am around my community.

00:09:19: I can draw in the right people, I know that, we both know at times

00:09:24: you sit back and you go, oh, why is that person in my life?

00:09:27: They're just a complaining pain of, and the eh, and you're just like guess what?

00:09:33: Wherever we go, there you are.

00:09:34: You're, it's what you're concentrating on.

00:09:36: It's what you're attracting.

00:09:37: It's what you're allowing to happen because you probably don't,

00:09:41: you're not clear about something.

00:09:43: That's, anyway, that's my mindset on stuff.

00:09:45: Yeah.

00:09:46: Okay.

00:09:46: Okay.

00:09:47: So when I have a commitment, I also will find the people that have the same ideas,

00:09:53: the same values, the same way of living.

00:09:55: Probably.

00:09:56: Yeah.

00:09:57: Yeah.

00:09:57: At least, or at least compatible.

00:09:59: Let's just put it that way.

00:10:00: There's a compatibility.

00:10:02: They may not be exactly like you are exactly, but they might have

00:10:06: a piece of the puzzle that really supports the experience that you're

00:10:10: trying to have, or the company or the, whatever at school or whatever.

00:10:14: Sometimes it's good to have that a different perspective, right?

00:10:18: Yeah.

00:10:19: That's something I actually only just recently noticed that we are all, we're

00:10:28: all so different, but there is always, as you just called it, a piece of the

00:10:33: puzzle that fits to another person.

00:10:36: And I can always find that, that piece to then

00:10:41: find something in common and build on that.

00:10:44: Absolutely.

00:10:45: And we'll never build on a hundred percent

00:10:47: same.

00:10:47: Oh no, you are correct.

00:10:48: You are so correct.

00:10:49: That is correct.

00:10:50: Yes.

00:10:50: Yeah.

00:10:51: Yeah.

00:10:51: And it's, it, I, it's just funny.

00:10:53: I realized that only recently thanks to a conversation.

00:10:57: Isn't it strange that sometimes we have those ideas and we live our

00:11:02: lives, and then suddenly we have an epiphany of something that is

00:11:06: so common sense.

00:11:08: Exactly.

00:11:08: It's so true.

00:11:09: It's so true.

00:11:12: That's so funny.

00:11:13: Yeah.

00:11:14: Now let me, ask you another question because I also said in the intro

00:11:18: that you have said that you were dyslexic or you are dyslexic . And

00:11:24: you said that this dyslexia really taught you to listen differently.

00:11:30: So how did that really shape your voice

00:11:36: literally, maybe, and also metaphorically.

00:11:39: Yeah.

00:11:40: I just learned I learned that without thinking that I had a disability just

00:11:46: now came to that conclusion this year.

00:11:49: Okay.

00:11:50: It just occurred to me like there was, I was slower.

00:11:54: I have to read things slower.

00:11:56: I'm definitely frightened of reading out loud that all my life.

00:12:00: And and of course all the things that I wanted to do in the art fields, like

00:12:04: especially acting and that kind of thing, cold reading, all that stuff.

00:12:08: My god.

00:12:09: So I think in a lot of ways I inhibited myself from doing certain

00:12:13: things because I was afraid.

00:12:15: And so you know what I did naturally as far as my talent was sing

00:12:21: and write and, and I could sing.

00:12:24: So a lot of times the singing, because there was major challenges

00:12:30: with remembering the lyrics.

00:12:31: Like major, so I have to do it over and over.

00:12:34: So you have to take your time.

00:12:36: You have to be slow.

00:12:37: I have to think about what was, what I just read.

00:12:40: I've got books that I've read and I, you asked me about them,

00:12:43: I go, I don't know.

00:12:45: I don't know because I also take it in in a different way, energetically

00:12:49: or what would you call it?

00:12:52: Not in a physical way, but just more of, in a more spiritual way, and yeah.

00:12:56: So

00:12:59: yeah, I just take in things differently and I had to work with myself with

00:13:03: it and then still take the attitude of, I want that, we're gonna do

00:13:10: this, we're gonna figure it out.

00:13:12: If I can't do everything, then I will bring somebody in to, to support the

00:13:16: effort, and just allowing myself to do that, which is pretty, a pretty

00:13:21: vulnerable place for most of us, so...

00:13:24: yeah.

00:13:24: Also admitting that we're not good at everything.

00:13:28: Yeah.

00:13:28: And that we need help and ask for help in some...

00:13:33: absolutely.

00:13:34: Absolutely.

00:13:36: Wow.

00:13:37: Yeah.

00:13:37: Yeah.

00:13:38: So

00:13:38: I think I became a, an achiever, I think I've just way overcompensated for every

00:13:43: why you'll see probably like a, there's a lot of actors, a lot of famous people

00:13:48: that are like overachievers and they're dyslexic, they've got some disability, oh,

00:13:53: okay.

00:13:54: Really interesting.

00:13:54: Who else is that?

00:13:55: I'm trying to think of somebody else just.

00:13:59: Yeah.

00:13:59: Our governor Gavin Newsom

00:14:01: here in California is dyslexic.

00:14:03: He has to memorize everything he talks about.

00:14:07: Okay.

00:14:08: Because you're, maybe also because you're used to working hard

00:14:12: to getting things done, you're

00:14:14: Yeah.

00:14:15: Have that tendency to do...

00:14:17: yeah.

00:14:18: Yeah.

00:14:19: Wow.

00:14:20: Now.

00:14:21: What could someone like me who is not dyslexic , learn from

00:14:27: your way of approaching things?

00:14:32: I think it's definitely very individual.

00:14:34: I, what I would do is I would look at the problem areas of my life and go,

00:14:39: oh, I wanna just be better about that.

00:14:41: Oh, or I can't do that very well, or whatever, just whatever it is.

00:14:45: I'm not really sure.

00:14:46: But it's different for everybody, obviously.

00:14:48: Me, of course, was, was reading out loud, how do, how does someone

00:14:53: like you that can read out loud?

00:14:54: No problem.

00:14:55: Make it sound really good, make it sound connected.

00:14:58: Like you're just, you hear people like that reading out of the, the stories

00:15:01: and you're just like, oh my gosh.

00:15:03: So I have to, again, I have to read it, slow down, understand it,

00:15:08: understand the higher concept of what I'm trying to talk about, and

00:15:12: then say it so somebody like you.

00:15:15: That shouldn't be an issue.

00:15:16: You probably catch all that No problem.

00:15:19: And you probably read out loud No problem.

00:15:21: But what, so I guess the question is what is it an area in your life not

00:15:27: being dyslexic, what is, what, is there other areas that are confusing or,

00:15:32: I. I don't know what they would be.

00:15:34: But

00:15:34: yeah.

00:15:35: And then just really take that approach, get some help.

00:15:37: Get somebody to help you.

00:15:38: Don't be ashamed.

00:15:39: Don't be afraid.

00:15:40: And most people, especially if they're excellent in a field, they wanna help you.

00:15:45: That's why they're there.

00:15:47: So don't feel weird and, ashamed or whatever the game is, right?

00:15:50: Don't go there.

00:15:51: And if somebody doesn't wanna help you, that's okay.

00:15:54: They're just not right for you.

00:15:56: And that's really the best way to look at it, instead of oh, they don't like

00:15:59: me and they don't wanna help, and, so

00:16:03: Yeah, that's a good point.

00:16:05: So if they don't

00:16:07: if they don't accept my ask for help, then they're probably not

00:16:11: the best one to help me anyway.

00:16:13: Exactly.

00:16:14: Exactly.

00:16:14: Because they, they wanna align with you, and you just, it's I

00:16:18: always say, you take a a s a round hole, you put a square peg in it.

00:16:21: That's it's like that.

00:16:22: It's hello, it's not going in.

00:16:24: It's not the right people.

00:16:26: Yeah.

00:16:27: So there is not, the piece of puzzle that we have in common is probably very small.

00:16:32: Most likely Yes.

00:16:34: Maybe not in that area that you've requested.

00:16:37: Yeah true.

00:16:38: Yeah.

00:16:38: It can be another one.

00:16:39: That's true.

00:16:39: Yeah.

00:16:40: That's true.

00:16:40: Yeah.

00:16:40: We all have those different facets and

00:16:43: Yes,

00:16:43: and different layers.

00:16:46: That's so wonderful.

00:16:47: Now if we think about life nowadays, and especially life in the workplaces.

00:16:55: What would you say, what would you, would you wanna see more of in, in the

00:17:02: workplace when there would be something that you could help people in the

00:17:08: workplace through music and storytelling,

00:17:10: what would that be?

00:17:12: Yeah.

00:17:13: I, I think overall in, in the workplace, I think because it's such a communal thing

00:17:18: and then it's also an individual thing.

00:17:21: It's been years since I've been in that environment.

00:17:23: Exactly.

00:17:24: But, what I see the lack of is consciousness.

00:17:28: Like, as a unit, can we raise our consciousness?

00:17:32: Is there programs, is there things that we can bring in, kinda like Soul on Fire?

00:17:36: Is there something that we can bring in that just makes everybody relax?

00:17:40: It, uplifts them, tells 'em a few stories.

00:17:42: They've got some things to take home to think about themselves, for themselves

00:17:46: in regards to a more transformative

00:17:50: more conscious way of being in life.

00:17:53: And I think once we bring that, when we, once we do that work with

00:17:56: ourselves, we can bring that to our work setting and then it's gonna

00:18:00: be a little bit easier to say, Hey can I talk to you about something?

00:18:05: I was just thinking about this for myself.

00:18:07: What's your thoughts?

00:18:08: I think the conversations get deeper.

00:18:10: They get more interesting.

00:18:12: More compelling and not just How was your day?

00:18:15: Or just avoiding somebody or, you know what I mean?

00:18:18: It just top surface, bitch fest about the TV show that they watched last

00:18:22: night, you know what I'm saying?

00:18:24: It's no, you can actually take stuff away where you can access a, the possibilities

00:18:29: of having a deeper conversation with others, in the work setting and yourself.

00:18:36: Like, what do I really think about that?

00:18:38: Let me write that down.

00:18:39: Things like that.

00:18:40: Plus they'll get a copy of my book too, so that, that goes with it.

00:18:44: And then there's wonderful worksheets in there to do that kind of process.

00:18:48: So do you wanna say a bit more about the worksheets and then the book and

00:18:52: the work that people can do with it?

00:18:55: I'm right in the middle of writing a wonderful questionnaire

00:19:00: sheet for everybody.

00:19:01: Questions like reflective questions, right?

00:19:05: What would I choose if I fully trusted myself?

00:19:09: That's one question, right?

00:19:11: Then there's another If I already had courage, what action would I take today?

00:19:18: Today.

00:19:20: Or What story of fear am I willing to release so I can step into my power?

00:19:29: What do you need to walk past in order to move forward?

00:19:35: These are like little snippets of things that we, that will be on the worksheet

00:19:39: that will, things that we're gonna share.

00:19:41: There'll be a time, like I said, towards the end of the show where we actually,

00:19:45: I open it up and then see if people really wanna share their insights.

00:19:49: They don't have to, it's not like I'm from spotlights or something, but if

00:19:52: that's, if that's cathartic and if that's important, it'll be a beautiful

00:19:56: moment, beautiful experience for people to go, wow, I never thought about that.

00:20:01: I'm glad they said that.

00:20:03: That happens a lot.

00:20:04: It happened in the show once actually

00:20:06: yeah.

00:20:07: Yeah.

00:20:07: And also for oneself, if I say out loud what I just wrote down or what I just

00:20:13: thought about it's so much more powerful.

00:20:16: Absolutely.

00:20:17: Yeah.

00:20:17: It brings you present, it brings you into your own consciousness, your own

00:20:21: thoughts, your own beliefs, and then it, and it allows you to go, hopefully

00:20:26: that later you can step back and really question, why did I say that?

00:20:31: Oh, that's interesting.

00:20:32: Why?

00:20:33: Wow, that's really negative.

00:20:34: Or I can't think of anything.

00:20:36: You go wow, that's interesting.

00:20:39: And It gives you food, food for your soul.

00:20:42: Wow.

00:20:43: Now, if I would ask you a suggestion or maybe even a recommendation of

00:20:51: one small thing, one small step that someone listening to this.

00:20:58: Yeah.

00:20:58: Should or could take right now or right today or this week.

00:21:04: What would that be?

00:21:04: What would your suggestion be?

00:21:07: Yeah.

00:21:08: I used to teach this in my workshops and so I would say, this, and this

00:21:13: really helps with clarity, I would say take a piece of paper out,

00:21:16: and it sounds really simple, but you'll find how difficult it is.

00:21:21: I have difficulties with it.

00:21:23: Draw a line down the middle of your paper.

00:21:26: On the left side write down the things that I want on the right side write

00:21:30: down the things that I don't want.

00:21:33: And it'll be really interesting to see where you get stopped.

00:21:38: Wow.

00:21:39: Wow.

00:21:40: I, what I've noticed is that a lot of people have, can fill up

00:21:43: the things that they don't want.

00:21:45: But what about the things that they do want?

00:21:49: Yeah,

00:21:50: try it.

00:21:50: It works.

00:21:51: It really works.

00:21:52: 'cause then it really helps you think a little bit deeper, and I always

00:21:55: say, if you get stuck and you're, it feels convoluted or whatever,

00:22:01: I think the best thing to do is.

00:22:03: Definitely journal, write things down, and then if you still can't find

00:22:08: your way through the weeds, sometimes it's best to talk to other people

00:22:13: and find the right process for you to help you have that breakthrough.

00:22:18: And that's really a good place to start.

00:22:21: And that really allows one to have the clarity to really bring that in.

00:22:27: And you go, you know what?

00:22:28: I'm super clear that, yeah, I don't want this, but you know what, I

00:22:32: do want this and I'm scared and I don't know how to get there.

00:22:37: Let's talk to somebody, shall we?

00:22:38: Let's figure that, let's figure out what that roadblock is.

00:22:41: I did a lot of Carl Jung work with the working with Shadow,

00:22:46: and yeah, so Jung, sorry, Carl Jung, not young.

00:22:52: It's that American accent.

00:22:53: Yeah.

00:22:54: That's very inter that's very insightful.

00:22:56: And that's why I always say I'm working as a coach and I have a lot of clients

00:23:01: having that kind of conversation with me.

00:23:03: And me as well.

00:23:04: I'm working with coaches because yeah, I do have that conversation

00:23:08: as well, because we all have blind spots when it comes to our own stuff.

00:23:13: Of course.

00:23:13: And it's wonderful because there are so many things that you

00:23:16: don't know that you don't know.

00:23:18: Yeah.

00:23:19: And then all of a sudden it, it shows up like a demon.

00:23:23: You're like you're like, what's wrong?

00:23:26: Why do I feel that way?

00:23:28: Yeah.

00:23:29: Crazy.

00:23:29: Crazy.

00:23:30: The journey is just crazy sometimes, Christine.

00:23:33: It's just oh my God.

00:23:34: But when you find your lane, you get to stay in it.

00:23:38: Stay in it,

00:23:40: yeah.

00:23:41: What

00:23:41: was your most.

00:23:44: Frightening experience on stage and your most beautiful experience on stage?

00:23:52: When I'm full, the beautiful part is when I'm.

00:23:56: Fully present, and I know my music really well, and I'm not just learning my song.

00:24:03: And I sing totally from the Body, mind, spirit through the heart, and it comes

00:24:09: out and it's this amazing art piece.

00:24:12: And it, it's just so freeing and so connected for me.

00:24:16: There's so much juice for me that it goes out, and then everybody gets juice.

00:24:22: Everybody gets, I wanna ex, there's something that happens that's

00:24:27: electric in the room, that everybody goes, I want that, whatever that is.

00:24:31: So then you gotta find out what that is for you.

00:24:34: So that's the best part.

00:24:36: Ooh.

00:24:36: I don't usually have negative experiences, but I do have embarrassing moments.

00:24:42: The embarrassing moment for me was when I was in Lake Tahoe, which is in California.

00:24:48: And and there's plus there's a big casino

00:24:51: it's connected to Nevada and stuff like that.

00:24:52: Anyway, I was playing this this venue and big stage big room.

00:24:58: It was really nice.

00:24:59: And I had dancers and we were doing all these dance moves and I went to do

00:25:04: this dance move and it, the floor is, was wood and it just, I hid it just

00:25:09: right, just slick enough that I scooped.

00:25:13: And I

00:25:13: fell and it was so loud.

00:25:15: It went boom when I hit the floor.

00:25:19: No, I'm not kidding you.

00:25:20: The whole room went like this.

00:25:27: What's that loud noise?

00:25:30: Oh, and I just had to pretend like that was part of the move, and then I rolled

00:25:35: over and got back up and started dancing.

00:25:37: I just pretended like it was part of it, but that was so embarrassing.

00:25:42: I wanted just leave the room.

00:25:44: And then there's been other moments where I was so frightened,

00:25:47: like for auditions or whatever,

00:25:49: you just sweating.

00:25:50: Just sweating, you're just like so frightened.

00:25:53: And then you just, hopefully you do your best.

00:25:57: You lean into what you know, and you just get through it,

00:26:02: even though it may not be good.

00:26:05: What is your, what is that drive?

00:26:08: What is that motivation that then gets you back on stage?

00:26:13: Yeah.

00:26:17: Yeah.

00:26:18: That motivation comes from my Deep Soul's gift.

00:26:24: I feel like I'm here to use my gift in ways to really uplift, I know it sounds

00:26:32: very cliche, but I'm really here to show, in a way show where I help people see

00:26:38: their way, not my way, their way that they can do it and they can overcome

00:26:44: whatever challenges that they have and to just keep going and find them.

00:26:50: Find their part, their piece, their lane, stay there,

00:26:53: go there.

00:26:54: And and I just really feel like that's what gets me up.

00:26:57: That's what, it's, it's weird, but it's never been for myself.

00:27:02: It's never been like, oh, I just love what I can't, there are people just love

00:27:07: their voice, it's okay, that's fine.

00:27:10: I love myself on a deeper level,

00:27:12: on another level, I don't need the adulation.

00:27:15: I don't need I don't need people to love me or tell me I'm great, or

00:27:19: I don't, I'm not addicted, like I need to be out there and just, say.

00:27:23: It's not from a place of emptiness and addiction.

00:27:26: It's not a place from that, it's from a place of, I wanna give, I wanna share

00:27:31: this, and if that helps you, we're good.

00:27:35: And that's, that, I guess that's where the, that's where it comes from

00:27:38: because, it's not a, I'm not Beyonce, so it's not oh, I got 5 million

00:27:44: coming in, we're preparing for a show.

00:27:46: I'll be touring next year, and I got 25 Grammys.

00:27:49: It's not like that.

00:27:50: It's so you're right.

00:27:51: I have no idea what gets me up.

00:27:53: I have no idea.

00:27:54: Yeah.

00:27:54: But I think you gave the perfect answer.

00:27:56: And this, almost need, to serve others and to be there for others.

00:28:04: Isn't that the most beautiful motivation that one could have?

00:28:06: It is, and that in itself is fulfilling to know that somebody's walked away,

00:28:11: getting something for themselves that they can go on, and then they can

00:28:16: touch other people because they're feeling good about who they are.

00:28:19: Yeah, that's would, that would cure a lot of issues that we have today.

00:28:23: I know we're in a narcissistic society right now, but,

00:28:27: Yeah.

00:28:28: But you're working against that with everything you do, which is wonderful.

00:28:34: Yeah.

00:28:34: Yeah.

00:28:34: Thank you.

00:28:35: Thank you so much, Glenda.

00:28:36: I could go on forever.

00:28:38: Just to round us off, where can people go to learn more about

00:28:41: you and your work and your

00:28:45: performance.

00:28:47: Yeah.

00:28:48: Easy enough.

00:28:49: I think the easiest way is to go to Glenda, G-L-E-N-D-A music.com.

00:28:55: That's the simplest.

00:28:56: If you go to my website you can find all the information about what I'm up to and

00:29:01: when the next show is gonna be and where.

00:29:04: Great.

00:29:04: Yeah.

00:29:05: Great.

00:29:05: I wish you the very best for all your endeavors.

00:29:09: Thank you.

00:29:09: And that you plan.

00:29:11: And thank you again so much for being on the show and sharing all

00:29:15: your insights and wisdom with us.

00:29:18: Appreciate it.

00:29:19: Thank so much, Christine.

00:29:21: Okay.

00:29:22: This was Lead.

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